Catalogus systematicus bibliothecae Horti Imperialis Botanici Petropolitani
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Copy number Shelfmark Loan status ex_80e 21 80e 21
Object number11364
TitleCatalogus systematicus bibliothecae Horti Imperialis Botanici Petropolitani
Author
EditionEditio nova
Place of publicationPetropoli (St. Petersburg)
Year of publication1886
PaginationXVI, 51o
Dimensions26x17 cm.
Materialboek
NotesDit boek was jaren afwezig maar teruggestuurd op 20 mei 2020 door de Dutse antiquaarAndreas Mueller. daar ging deze email uitwisseling aan vooraf:
Am 11.05.2020 um 16:39 schrieb Herman Voogd:
Dear mr Müller,
Many thanks for contacting us. The 2 Catalogues Systematicus Bibliothecae Horti Imperialis Botanici Petropolitani by De Berg en Herder are indeed from the collection of Teylers Museum in Haarlem, The Netherlands. The books are still in our (online) database and in older catalogues of our library (see attached photos) but no longer in our possession. We don’t have duplicates of these titles in our collection. The titles have the following numbers IIId 186 and IIId 187.
Traces of the numbers are visible on the first page ( the back of the cover) of both titles as you told me in the conversation we had on the telephone today. This numbers are clearly erased.
Over the Teylers Museum stamp another stamp is placed with the text in German “ausgeschrieben”. Teylers Museum has no stamp with this text. In the case that we written the titles out we would have used the stamp with the text in Dutch “uitgeschreven” (see attached photo). Teylers Museum has a long tradition in collecting and it was not common practice that we sold or donate our books and objects. So my guess is that we involuntary lost possession of these titles. Your suggestion that maybe we have lent it to another party and that the books are not returned is a possibility. But I have searched the archives of the museum but could not find anything about selling or lending. We would appreciate it very much if the titles would return to our museum. Thanks very much for your kind offer of helping us to get them back.
Kind regards
Herman Voogd
Hoofd collectiebeheer wetenschap
06 43126259
Meer informatie over Dinomakers
Van: Trienke van der Spek <tvanderspek@teylersmuseum.nl>
Verzonden: vrijdag 8 mei 2020 14:25
Aan: Andreas Mueller <mueller@mueller-draheim.de>; Herman Voogd <hvoogd@teylersmuseum.nl>
Onderwerp: Re: Antiquarian Books from Teylers Library
Dear Mr. Mueller,
I will forward you question to our collections manager Herman Voogd (CC). He will answer you as soon as possible, but please let us know if there is an pressing deadline that we have to to take into account.
With kind regards,
Trienke van der Spek
Hoofd Wetenschappelijke Collecties, Hoofdconservator
Head of Scientific Collections, Chief Curator
Teylers Museum is voorlopig gesloten. Achter de schermen werken we waar mogelijk door. Daarbij volgen we uiteraard de richtlijnen van de overheid en het RIVM.
Dwaal door het museum met onze virtuele tour en beleef meer online.
+31(0)23 5160970
+31(0)628626277
tvanderspek@teylersmuseum.nl
www.teylersmuseum.nl
@Teylers
facebook.com/TeylersMuseum
instagram.com/TeylersMuseum
Teylers Museum heeft een Green Key keurmerk voor duurzame museumlocatie
________________________________________
Van: Andreas Mueller <mueller@mueller-draheim.de>
Verzonden: vrijdag 8 mei 2020 14:13
Aan: Trienke van der Spek <tvanderspek@teylersmuseum.nl>
Onderwerp: Antiquarian Books from Teylers Library
Dear Mrs. van der Spek,
we are antiquarian booksellers and just considerating to purchase from a colleague the two books pictured in the attachment (Catalogus 1 and Catalogus 2). Both copies bear a stamp of the Teylers museum on recto of the title-pages, with a later German cancellation stamp. At rear of the books a private purchase note in pencil is found, dated 1962. Both works are listed as present in today's online catalogue of the Teylers library.
Could you please confirm that there have been duplicate sales from the Teylers museum at some time in its history? We would like to make sure before we firmly order the copies.
Many thanks in advance and kind regards,
Andreas Mueller
Antiquariat Mueller & Draheim GbR
Carl-von-Ossietzky-Strasse 27
D - 14471 Potsdam
Germany
Tel. 0049 - 331 - 2437 248
Am 11.05.2020 um 16:39 schrieb Herman Voogd:
Dear mr Müller,
Many thanks for contacting us. The 2 Catalogues Systematicus Bibliothecae Horti Imperialis Botanici Petropolitani by De Berg en Herder are indeed from the collection of Teylers Museum in Haarlem, The Netherlands. The books are still in our (online) database and in older catalogues of our library (see attached photos) but no longer in our possession. We don’t have duplicates of these titles in our collection. The titles have the following numbers IIId 186 and IIId 187.
Traces of the numbers are visible on the first page ( the back of the cover) of both titles as you told me in the conversation we had on the telephone today. This numbers are clearly erased.
Over the Teylers Museum stamp another stamp is placed with the text in German “ausgeschrieben”. Teylers Museum has no stamp with this text. In the case that we written the titles out we would have used the stamp with the text in Dutch “uitgeschreven” (see attached photo). Teylers Museum has a long tradition in collecting and it was not common practice that we sold or donate our books and objects. So my guess is that we involuntary lost possession of these titles. Your suggestion that maybe we have lent it to another party and that the books are not returned is a possibility. But I have searched the archives of the museum but could not find anything about selling or lending. We would appreciate it very much if the titles would return to our museum. Thanks very much for your kind offer of helping us to get them back.
Kind regards
Herman Voogd
Hoofd collectiebeheer wetenschap
06 43126259
Meer informatie over Dinomakers
Van: Trienke van der Spek <tvanderspek@teylersmuseum.nl>
Verzonden: vrijdag 8 mei 2020 14:25
Aan: Andreas Mueller <mueller@mueller-draheim.de>; Herman Voogd <hvoogd@teylersmuseum.nl>
Onderwerp: Re: Antiquarian Books from Teylers Library
Dear Mr. Mueller,
I will forward you question to our collections manager Herman Voogd (CC). He will answer you as soon as possible, but please let us know if there is an pressing deadline that we have to to take into account.
With kind regards,
Trienke van der Spek
Hoofd Wetenschappelijke Collecties, Hoofdconservator
Head of Scientific Collections, Chief Curator
Teylers Museum is voorlopig gesloten. Achter de schermen werken we waar mogelijk door. Daarbij volgen we uiteraard de richtlijnen van de overheid en het RIVM.
Dwaal door het museum met onze virtuele tour en beleef meer online.
+31(0)23 5160970
+31(0)628626277
tvanderspek@teylersmuseum.nl
www.teylersmuseum.nl
@Teylers
facebook.com/TeylersMuseum
instagram.com/TeylersMuseum
Teylers Museum heeft een Green Key keurmerk voor duurzame museumlocatie
________________________________________
Van: Andreas Mueller <mueller@mueller-draheim.de>
Verzonden: vrijdag 8 mei 2020 14:13
Aan: Trienke van der Spek <tvanderspek@teylersmuseum.nl>
Onderwerp: Antiquarian Books from Teylers Library
Dear Mrs. van der Spek,
we are antiquarian booksellers and just considerating to purchase from a colleague the two books pictured in the attachment (Catalogus 1 and Catalogus 2). Both copies bear a stamp of the Teylers museum on recto of the title-pages, with a later German cancellation stamp. At rear of the books a private purchase note in pencil is found, dated 1962. Both works are listed as present in today's online catalogue of the Teylers library.
Could you please confirm that there have been duplicate sales from the Teylers museum at some time in its history? We would like to make sure before we firmly order the copies.
Many thanks in advance and kind regards,
Andreas Mueller
Antiquariat Mueller & Draheim GbR
Carl-von-Ossietzky-Strasse 27
D - 14471 Potsdam
Germany
Tel. 0049 - 331 - 2437 248
| Copy number | ex_80e 21 |
| Shelfmark | 80e 21 |
| Loan status |